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Latayne Scott's avatar

Shane, your contention that the Revelation was written prior to AD 70 is a compelling argument, and I'm leaning toward agreeing that the Revelation was written before the destruction of Jerusalem. And considering the fact that prophecies, while written before the fact, are always better understood later when fulfilled in real time. That's proven over and over by the way the disciples came to understand Jesus's previous prophecies about His death, but only after His death.

I did an experiment night before last. I decided to read through the book of Revelation in one sitting, trying to put aside what I would have said I now "know," and trying to absorb it as if hearing it for the first time. I thought of the descriptions in the book of Ezekiel (wheels in wheels, eyes all around, counterintuitive movements) and my prior conclusion that the human mind cannot "see" all those things simultaneously but rather cumulatively, if that makes sense.

I let the Revelation sweep me along. In my mind, I kind of compared my reading to watching a Lord of the Rings movie, where you know there is symbolism and details to look at more closely but you must postpone exploring it until later, just staying on for the sensory-overload ride.

All my life I've deflected any requests that I write and/or teach on the book of Revelation. Thirty-one books, and I never touched it other than references in other contexts. When I became Orthodox recently, I appreciated the Church's stance on not using it in Liturgy, not putting pieces of it up for consideration. The early church fathers pointed out how much controversy autopsying it brought in the early church (my words, not theirs, with apologies to those fathers.)

My reading just now confirmed that decision. It's a delicious multi-sensory wild ride treat for the faithful who refuse to get involved in arguments about it. As a whole, it tells me that He is King, He is worth dying for, that His enemies are multifaceted and terrifying but that they will be vanquished in the end. Everything is going to be all right.

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Hans Stein's avatar

Very coherent and well thought and written. Thanks.

What is your view on Daniel's words regarding Messiah cut oft in the middle of the last week (of years and tines of the Nations)? And the remaining 42 months, 1260 days, three and a half years and days? Are they not the time of those (us?) who are called to follow his footsteps, to - how bold of someone to say that, Paul - complete what is missing of the toils of the Anointed?

So that what he says and sees regarding Jerusalem, also will come to pass likewise to those who are called to be - with their bodies - the Temple of God (including those who - as it was in Jerusalem - pretend to be in such charge (yet, they are not his own: 'I do not "know" you')?

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